My friend Dahamburgler and I wanted to have a conversation about the internet over plurk. Next time we'll just public plurk it then provide a link. Enjoy!
Billchu13 feelslike there's not enough time in the day for all the stuff we want to do
| Dahamburgler thinks | the internets (aka Das Webernets aka the toobs, aka Castle Webbenstein) are the real culprit. We spend all day on social sites instead of |
| Dahamburgler thinks | Our lives revolve around avoiding any human contact nowadays |
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| Billchu13 loves | the internet, and all its tubes |
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| Billchu13 | what's wrong with something that great, even if you're addicted to it? |
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| Dahamburgler | It's kind of like Shivers. We, who have been used to it since we are born have to problems with it, but the people on the outside are the |
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| Dahamburgler | only people that can be a real judge of whether it is truly a benefit or not. People who are addicted to drugs think they're good too! |
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| Billchu13asks | , what' s wrong with drugs? Just because a view is different from yours, even if it's through a different lens, doesn't make it less valid. |
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| Dahamburglerwonders | if we should stay on point. I do not doubt that i rely on the internet too. That is not the question. My query is whether it is hurting us. |
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| Billchu13 | I see the Internet as an enabler. As far as communication with people goes, I can have text conversations with my friends all day, not just |
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| Dahamburgler | Ya, but are we really that against human contact that we can even HEAR each other while conversing. Like right now, you're sitting next to |
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| Dahamburgler | me, but we are TALKING not just typing to each other, but conversing in person. I have no problem sending messages when its inconvienient |
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| Dahamburgler | but I feel we use it as a replacement rather than a suppliment. |
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| Billchu13 | I still need to spend time with real people. Texting/fb-ing is addition, not subtraction |
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| Dahamburgler | You say that because you are on the inside and you cannot see properly. Nor can I for that matter. Yet, to quote you |
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| Dahamburgler | "Colby, you should get Duels of the Planeswalkers so you don't have to come to my place to play it. |
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| Billchu13 | only b/c you don't like coming to my place, but valid point |
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| Billchu13 | just because something is so awesome it makes everything else pale by comparison doesn't mean that's a bad thing |
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| Billchu13 | Being "inside the parasite" doesn't have to be a bad thing. you're working under the assumption that everything that takes away from what |
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| Billchu13 | you already have is a bad thing. But sometimes it's time to say "out with the old and in with the new" |
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| Dahamburgler | I believe there are pros and cons to everything I just feel people aren't really aware of what they have bought into without realizing it. |
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| Dahamburgler | For example, I buy a new computer every 2 years at least because I want to stay up to date on games and programs because I've been |
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| Dahamburgler | conditioned to always feel that I should because I was raised in the technologically savvy era. |
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| Billchu13 | but maybe... everybody benefits from this computer addiction. |
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| Billchu13thinks | this kitty can defend the internet way better than I can |
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| Dahamburgler | The argument is not whether the internet is funny or that it is a waste of time, but rather that we spend so much time on the internet |
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| Dahamburgler | without even thinking about how we used to communicate. We have "free hugs" people and the "hugbots" so that we can have an artificial |
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| Dahamburgler | replacement for actually having to see people and have physical contact with them. "Why go out and make friends and have fun when I can |
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| Dahamburgler | 'make friends' on the internet'. I'd much rather go on a hike or find a nice place to sit and read outside than spend all day in the same |
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| Billchu13 | If you wanted to do that, you would. Is your complaint that the Internet is keeping you from doing that? |
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| Dahamburgler | No, it's the weather. I'm saying that we should have balance to our laziness. |
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| Billchu13thinks | the Internet and digital era are not limiting the things that we do. It's an enabler, not a disabler. |
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| Dahamburgler | But maybe it shouldn't be "out with the old" is all I'm saying. We have replaced the old ways with new ones without realizing it. |
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| Dahamburgler | Why can we not assimilate the new things with new. I mean its a bit late now, but you get what I mean |
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| Billchu13feels | that whenever there's a market for old things, they will come back. |
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| Billchu13 | But when there's not a market for something anymore, then what's the point? |
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| Dahamburgler | I'm not saying we should bring old things back, I'm just saying we need to be aware of our technological history and the fact that our |
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| Dahamburgler | lives revolve around all this new technology that will be as obsolete as the gramophone in due time. I feel Nick Swarthson had a good |
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| Dahamburgler | example. When we are grandparents we'll be telling stories about of technological history. Our grandkids will ask about the games we used to |
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| Dahamburgler | play and we would say something like "In my time, we used to an incomplete pie chart and we would chase GHOOOSTS!!!" How stupid does that |
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| Dahamburgler | sound even now? But it lead to the games we play today, and was part of the technological revolution that lead to modern PCs. |
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| Billchu13 | The fact that our technology will be obsolete in ten years in no way lessens its awesomeness. It just makes me even more excited about |
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| Dahamburgler | The more important part is the technology of the future that will make some illness a thing of the past |
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| Dahamburgler | in any case, I hope that we can simply recognize our reliance on technology. That way we can at least be prepared if, for some reason, |
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| Billchu13 hopes | that never happens, my head might explode |
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| Billchu13 | I don't think that we have any illusions about our reliance on technology for everything. |
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| Billchu13 | But what I'm saying is, technology is great. It's the hyperevolution of the human race. |
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| Billchu13wonders | In a hundred years, who knows what we'll be capable of? |
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| Dahamburglerthinks | it will be great, but who's to say that we will not be so reliant, that IT runs us...anyhow, it's late and we should go to sleep. |
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Good points all around.
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